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're not a football fan, you know the name jovan belcher. you know he killed the mother of his child and then committed suicide. but what do we know about his girlfriend? his partner? the mother of his child, kasandra perkins? according to the kansas city star perkins and belcher were madly in love but argued of late. the star added many people knew that belcher owned guns and enjoyed shooting but they'd never known him to be violent. not even close. nbc's bob costas on sunday night football took on the gun issue and started a twitter firestorm. >> you want some actual perspective on this? well, a bit of it comes from the kansas city-based writer jason whitlock with whom i do not always agree but who today said it so well that we may as well just quote or paraphrase from the end of his article. our current gun culture, whitlock wrote, ensures more and more domestic disputes will end in the ultimate tragedy. >> we'll talk about guns and crimes and domestic violence in a minute. first, casey wian is in kansas city this morning with the chiefs. good morning, casey. >> reporter: good mor
morning, kansas city chiefs linebacker jovan belcher murdered the mother of his 3-month-old child. girlfriend cassandra perkins at their home. he drove to the team's practice facility and turned the gun on nims front of his coach and general manager. no one knows what set him off. but costas thinks he knows the reason. here he is on sunday night football. >> you want actual perspective on this? a bit comes from jason whitlock who i don't agree but today said it so well we may as well just quote or paraphrase from the and of his article. our current gun culture, whitlock wrote, ensure more and more domestic disputes will end in the ultimate tragedy an more convenience store confrontations over loud music coming from a car will leave more teenage boys bloodieed and dead. handguns do not bring safety. they exacerbate our flaws and bait us to embracing confrontation rather than avoiding it. in the coming daying, jovan belcher's action and the possible connection to football will be analyzed. who knows, but here wrote whitlock, this is what i believe. if jovan belcher didn't possess a
of their team. police say linebacker jovan belcher shot and killed his girlfriend, the mother of his infant daughter. minutes later he took his own life in the parking lot of arrowhead stadium where the chiefs play right in front of his coaches. nbc's tan trareporter. >> reporter: kansas city head coach romeo crennel wiped away tears on the sideline one day after witnessing linebacker jovan belcher taking his own life. >> i'm choosing not to answer any questions about what i saw yesterday. and i think that you will understand that, and hopefully you will respect my wishes on that because it wasn't a pretty sight. >> reporter: belcher shot himself here at this practice facility at famed arrowhead stadium. crennel told police the 25-year-old belcher thanked him and general manager scott pioli for all they did for him. and then fired the fatal shots. >> our prayers go out to the family of kasandra perkins. they are grieving, and we send our condolences to that family. our prayers and condolences go out to the family of jovan belcher. they are also grieving. >> reporter: earlier that morning be
, but finding it hard to celebrate. they took to the field a day after police say their teammate, jovan belcher shot and killed his 22-year-old girl friend, kasandra perkins. belcher then turned the gun on himself outside the chiefs practice facility in front of his coaches and the general manager. he and perkins leave behind a 3-month-old daughter. the chiefs beat the panthers 27-21 last night. the struggling team winning only its second game of the season despite this senseless violence an the loss of their teammate. coach romeo crennel congratulated the team after the win. >> you stuck together as a team like we talked about, helped each other, all right? family and friends, you relied on those people, all right? you relied on your faith to help get you through this, all right? we got through it, all right? in a grand way because everybody made a contribution. everybody helped, okay? that's what a team is about. >> casey wian has been talk together chiefs players and coaches, all trying to come to grips with this violent murder/suicide. what's the latest? >> well, the latest on the investiga
now investigators say they are trying to figure out what prompted jovan belcher to murder his girlfriend before taking his own life. police say that jovan belcher shot and killed his girlfriend, kasandra perkins, on sunday morning before heading to the chiefs stadium where he killed himself in front of his head coach and others. the chiefs have any moment of silence before their game yesterday to remember all the victims of domestic violence. not specifically naming jovan belcher, but certainly a lot of questions. steve brown has more in chicago with this. we heard a little bit of the 911 call before the break. how do those final moments play out at arrowhead stadium earlier on saturday morning? reporter: yes, let's put that into context. kasandra perkins was shot numerous times and fatally wounded by the father of their child. that is jovan belcher, who drove to arrowhead stadium, essentially to talk to two people. that would be head coach and general manager. neither of those two gentlemen have commented on how those final seconds played out. but police officer that was watc
chiefs say jovan belcher has no history of serious head injuries, but friend say he has many times received head injuries and in recent months he was taking heavy medication as well as alcohol to deal with this. we also now know that jovan belcher's mother was inside the house when he shot and killed his girlfriend, reportedly shooting her nine times. the mother is the one that called 911. police say there is no history of domestic violence. but friends are saying this was a rocky relationship. during halftime of last night's game bob costas, the nbc broadcaster used his segment where he often does opinion on sports to instead advocate for gun control. costas paraphrase an article written by a kansas city-based writer for fox sports. >> handguns do not enhance our safety. they exacerbate our flaws and bait us to embrace confrontation rather than avoiding it. in the coming days jovan belcher's actions will be an lids. but i believe in jovan belcher didn't possess a gun, he and kasandra perkins would both be alive today. >> reporter: a lot of people criticizing costas for using a spo
to promote gun control. remember this? >> in the coming days, jovan belcher's actions and the possible connection to football will be analyzed. if belcher didn't possess a gun, he and perkins would both be alive today. >> eric: so after that, bob costas said he wouldn't back track. but now, a couple hours later, costas called the jovan belcher commentary a mistake. he said my mistake and i left it open for too much communication. >> dana: i think bob costas has to say something. getting too much attention for it. i'm sure that nbc didn't like the type of attention he was getting. even if you agree with bob costas, even with the anthem and police honored on the field. but missed communication is another cop out. miscommunication means oops, i could have said it better. remember, we have heard this before in politics. as you remember, i don't have to repeat it. the question i have on this and the new information was the police. they find anymore a bentley and wake up and say hey, don't drive. maybe there is a little bit more of giving a pass. to people who are famous or wealthy with a be
in the murder-suicide of n.f.l. star jovan belcher and cassandra perkins. the kansas city star and the "new york post" report that belcher spent the night drinking and partying with a girl named britney glass, at a popular bar district in downtown kansas city. belcher drove miss glass home, dropped her off and passed out in misbentley. 2:50 a.m., cops woke belcher up and told him not to drive. he called glass apt spent the next four hours in her apartment. at 6:45 a.m., he drove the bentley to his home where girlfriend perkins recently arrived with her own night out with friends. argument ensued and belcher shot perkins nine times. belcher's mother and baby were there for the shooting. after killing perkins, belcher kissed the lifeless body, walk toed his mother, kissed his baby girl and left. he drove five miles to the chiefs' practice field after several minutes of pleading with him, they couldn't talk belcher off the ledge. belcher thanked the coaches, knelt down beside a car, made a sign of a cross and put a shot to his fare hoed ending his life -- fairhead ending his life. serve trying to m
's training center where he turned the gun on himself. police have identified him as jovan belcher, and had been with the team for four years. a spokesperson joins me now on the phone, officer sapp, this is sad story, and it is horrible to have to report. but walk us through what happened. >> yeah, a little before 8:00 this morning, we received a call from a resident, a 911 call stating there was a shooting in a residence. when we arrived on scene, a lady came out later identified as jovan's mother, stating there was a lady inside shot multiple times. officers went in and she was taken to a local hospital where she was pronounced dead a short time later. about 20 minutes later, about ten minutes after 8:00, we received a call from arrow head stadium security and they had stated that jovan belcher was standing out in the parking lot of the practice facility with a gun to his head. when the officers arrived there, when they were getting out of their car they started to approach. and that is when jovan walked the opposite direction and shot and killed himself. >> oh, my gosh. and the coach sai
backer jovan belcher shot and killed his girlfriend kasandra perkins. he then drove to the stadium and shot himself in front of his head coach and team manager. we're faced with a senseless tragedy involving gun violence. last night sportscaster bob costas used the words of jason whitlock to weigh in. >> our current gun culture ensures that more and more domestic disputes will end in the ultimate tragedy and more convenient store confrontations coming from loud music from a car will leave more teens bloodied and dead. handguns exacerbate our flaws tempt us to escalate arguments and bait us into embracing confrontation rather than avoiding it. in the coming days, jovan belcher's actions and their possible connection to football will be analyzed. who knows. but here, wrote jason whitlock, is what i believe: if jovan belcher didn't possess a gun, he and kasandra perkins would both be alive today. >> that statement has enraged the great defenders of america's gun culture at fox news. they put forth their best efforts to smear bob costas in the everies. >> bob costas in the standards of
. >>trace: in fact, they were providing jovan belcher with couples counseling but right before he killed himself he told the chiefs general manager the counseling was not enough. we are also now learning that hours before the shooting, kasandra came home from a concert at 1:00 o'clock in the morning and they argued and jovan belcher left the house. he was fund sleeping if his bentley an hour and a half later and they knocked on the window and he said he was waiting for a girlfriend and called another woman, he went inside that other woman's apartment, and he stayed there until 6:30 in the morning and he left and got home at 7:00 in the morning and that is when that final argument began. >>shepard: the bently was seen in front of the other woman's house repeatedly and now we get word he has a hit or had a history of violence. >>trace: involving women. we pulled a report from fix 26 when he was at the university of maine and it details the violent outburst and i quote, "i found him being treated the injuries consistent of possible sever thumb and laceration to the wrist and i was told belc
chiefs linebacker jovan belcher to murder his girlfriend and then kill himself. saturday's murder/suicide stunned the team, fans and nfl. but the chiefs played their best game the year beating the panthers 27-21. manuel bojorquez reports. >> reporter: amid the typical game day festivities reminders of a team tragedy. the coach greeted fans with a heart felt gesture just one day after watching linebacker jovan belcher take his life. >> it's tough when circumstance happen you can't undo them. so you have to rely on each other, rely on your family and friends and rely on your faith. >> it's going to affect the perkins family, the belcher family, his daughter for many years to come. not just today or in the next few weeks. >> reporter: authorities say belcher shot and killed cassandra perkins saturday morning at home. he then drove to the team's practice facility where he shot himself in front of the coach and the general manager. >> after talking to the captains they also felt like it was best we play, if for no other reason it takes our mind off our misery for a few hours. >> report
-suicide involving kansas city line backer jovan belcher. in a column written by jason whitlock because, quote, whitlock said it so well. >> handguns do thought enhance our safety. they exacerbate our flaws, tempt us to escalate arguments and bait us into embracing confrontation rather than avoiding it. in the coming days, jovan belcher's actions and their position connection to football will be analyzed. who knows? but here wrote jason whitlock is what i believe if jovan belcher didn't possess a gun he and cassandra perkins would both be alive today. >> the 93-year-old costas has gotten a bit of blow back for his comment as the nra-ceo said, quote, people turn on nbc to watch a football game and didn't want to listen to bob costas make excuses about a murder and wining about his social agenda of gun bans in the middle of a football game. remi, let's go to you first. whether you believe in gun control or not, i can't remember. it is half time at a chief hfs panthers -- chiefs-panthers game which for your information is football. really the best place to make a political statement? >> yes. isn'
. clearly an attempt by the chiefs to make sure that jovan belcher's girlfriend is not forgotten in all of this as a high profile nfl football player is in the midst of this tragic story. but this was a far cry from any kind of normal nfl football game on a sunday afternoon, don. the stadium was very empty, very quiet throughout much of the game. clearly not a ruccous atmosphere you would usually find at arrowhead stadium. the kansas city chiefs are known for supporting their fan despite this being a rather miserable season that the chiefs are enduring. but after the game the head coach of the football team, romeo crennel spoke to reporters. he was one of the coaches who witnessed jovan belcher killing himself at their practice facility yesterday morning. >> it is tough when circumstances happen. you can't undo them. you have to rely on each other, your family and friends and rely on your faith. and that's what the team tried to do. today we were able to do that and try to work our way through the tragedy. and knowing that it's not over today it still will go on tomorrow, the next day a
's murder/suicide. jovan belcher was out partying with another woman the night before he shot his girlfriend, kasandra perkins. belcher and oert woman became separated. he wound up returning to her apartment complex. when he couldn't find her, he crashed at her neighbor's house and the neighbor says belcher was drunk. he returned home the next morning, several hours after perkins got back from a night out. the couple argued and belcher killed perkins, later killing himself. >> we will cherish the wonderful memories we have of jovan and pray that those memories will bring us peace as we grapple to understand the unpredictable and tragic ending of his life and the life of kasandra perkins. >> kasandra perkins released a statement saying, quote, we appreciate the outpouring of love and concern for our kasandra "kasi" perkins. our hearts are truly broken for kasi. she was a beloved daughter, granddaughter, sister, cousin, mother and friend. please keep us in your hearts and prayers as well as the belcher family for two lives were lost, end quote. >>> attorneys for george zimmerman have posted a
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jovan belcher was, let alone he had a 3-month-old baby girl with his 22-year-old girl kasandra perkins. today we are learning a little bit more about this couple, but really so far little is known about what prompted the violence. kevin powell, i want to bring you into this conversation, you wrote this -- this column, this op-ed piece for cnn.com/opinion. you call it manhood, football and suicide. first, just welcome to you. i want to play a little sound and we'll talk about your piece, but i just want you to hear and our viewers to hear what one of belcher's teammates said and we'll talk about, you know, some of the athletes you've counseled. listen to this. >> sometimes you got to go out there, let your emotion and frustration out on the field. that's what we did as a team today. still, once again, we lost a teammate. and we lost a friend. >> kevin, you're not just an author and activist, you write in your piece how you've counseled some professional athletes and some entertainers, privately, and you -- to quote you, they have been grappling with very warped definitions of manhood. w
kansas city chiefs linebacker jovan belcher murdered his girlfriend before shooting and killing himself. as a result, the gun control debate back in the spotlight but with more gun regulation actually have made any difference at all? here now is deputy editor of think progress.org and nationally syndicated radio talk show host. lars i'm a second amendment guy. to me guns don't kill people crazy people shooting guns kill people. would a gun regulation have stopped this tragedy? >> only one kind of gun regulation would have stopped this and that would be to gut the second amendment and i don't think igor can reject that. 20,000 laws around the country regulate guns at the state, federal and local level. those laws sometimes are forced a and sometimes not. this young man there was no reason legally to deny him the ownership of a firearm. so the suggestion by bob costas who ought to be fired for the comments, his outrageous suggestion that the civil rights of americans all 300 million of us should be taken away and we should be denied the right to own a gun that would be the only way to tak
in football this weekend. it happened saturday morning when jovan belcher shot and killed his 22-year-old girlfriend in front of their 3-month-old daughter and belcher's own mother. he then drove to work where he met with his head coach and general manager and thanked them for all they had done for him, then he went out in their parking lot, saw police approaching, and shot himself in the head. football being football and by that, of course, i mean football being big business, the game, and by that i mean the big business must go on and so, of course, the kansas city chiefs played their money making game the next day. the football business was hoping that tv football commentators would ignore the biggest thing that happened in football this weekend. but bob costas could not. >> in the aftermath of the nearly unfathomable events in kansas city, the mindless sports cliches was heard yet again. something like this really puts it all in perspective. well, if so, that sort of perspective has a very short shelf life since we will inevitably hear about the perspective that we regained the ne
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are now saying that he may have had another girlfriend. jovan belcher shot the mother of his daughter at their home early in the morning and today we learned that he and the mother of of his daughter had gone out separately the night before and then had argued about it just before jovan belcher shot and killed her. police also say after shooting her, he apologized and kiss herd on the head. he then drove to arrowhead stadium where he committed suicide. >>> coming up, we're on storm watch once again as a new system makes its way to the bay area. >> the threat to areas still reeling from the massive storm this past weekend. >> the real estate market heats up for sale signs are becoming less common. what that means for buyers and sellers. [ laughter ] [ girl ] wow, you guys have it easy. i wish i had u-verse when i was your age. in my day, we didn't have these fancy wireless receivers. blah blah blah. if i had a sleepover, i couldn't just move the tv into the playroom. no. we had to watch movies in the den because that's where the tv outlet was. and if dad was snoring on the couch, we mu
are speaking out about the murder-suicide involving the kansas city chiefs jovan belcher and his girlfriend. ed lavandera is working the story for us. tell us what's going on. >> reporter: we're still trying to get to the bottom of the question everyone is asking. why did this happen? we spoke with a spokesperson close to the family of kasandra perkins saying they had no idea, no clue something like this could happen. >> i believe our suspect is chiefs player so whoever goes over there, proceed with caution. >> reporter: hearing the voices of kansas city police officers racing to make sense of what happened moments after belcher shot his girlfriend perkins at least three times. >> okay. i've got two coaches, one other employee here trying to talk with him. >> reporter: they did not know that belcher had just killed his girlfriend, head coach right in front of him. >> i was trying to get him to understand that life is not over. he still has a chance and let's get this worked out. >> reporter: but belcher did not listen. >> we've got shotted fired. self inflicted. one in the head. get in there. >
on jovan belcher. he may have been battling a series of foot-related injuries, according to some. now more from austin outside belcher's girlfriend's hometown. >> good morning. what happened in kansas city is certainly being felt here in austin, texas. cassandra perkins graduated high school here at anderson high school behind me here in northwest austin. the school district and family and friends in austin are shocked and saddened about what happened to the young mother on saturday when she was killed inside her home. we're learning more about the relationship, the volatile relationship between the two, between jovan belcher and cassandra perkins. friends say the two had lived apart, they had split up but recently got back together. cassandra made a trip here to austin to visit family just last month around the thanksgiving holiday. we're learning that the two possibly had fought the night before cassandra had come home late from a concert. now what will happen with their young daughter, zoe, we're learning she will stay with jovan's mother. >> gretchen: during the half time of the footba
into embracing confrontation rather than avoiding it. in the coming days, jovan belcher's actions and possible connection to football will be analyzed. who knows but here is what i believe. if jovan belcher did not possess a gun he and kasandra perkins would both be alive today. >> some critics saying costas picked the wrong time and place and others blast him for trying to take away their second amendment rights. now the blogs are light iing up with calls for him to be fired. quote, nbc should show bob costas the door. then there's this facebook page. fire bob costas for his unamerican comments on gun control. hln sports reporter joe carter is here to talk about all of this. what did he say in his own defense? >> i found several fire bob costas facebook pages with lots of likes. he went on the shows yesterday morning and defended himself and said that he did admit he made a mistake, that he used wrong forum to take on such a heavy-handed topic, that he should have listened to his own rule which is when you take on a topic as politically charged as gun control, leave yourself enough time to fu
are blasting costas. the murder suicide of jovan belcher has started the fire storm. >> in the coming days, belcher's actions and their possible connection to football will be analyzed. who knows? but here, wrote jason whitlock, is what i believe. if belcher didn't possess a gun, he and perkins would both be alive today. > >> greta: costas was quoting jason whitlock. immediately after he spoke, twitter blowing up with reaction. herman cain tweeting you tune in to a football game and listen to bob costas spewing sang t sancts drek. >> where are we headed? bob costas deserves to be fired for these remarks. >> he's allowed to have his opinion. yes, he's allowed to go there. >> we want to ban guns because the gun kills the person, not the person pulling the trigger. >> you want to get a political lecture by the rantings on the left, i suggest that bob costas could have worked for msnbc. >> jason whitlock's right. if there's no gun here, nobody's dead. i don't know what the issue is to take issue with. >> i don't get the sense he was calling for specific legislation or saying here's what we sho
are trying to figure out what drove nfl player jovan belcher to kill his girlfriend and then himself on saturday morning. friends and relatives of the couple said their relationship was strained and briefly lived apart last month but had just gotten back together. the two have a 3-month-old daughter. belcher's team the kansas city chiefs held a moment of silence at yesterday's game. the head coach says the game was an escape from the pain. >> after talking with the captains they also felt like it was best that we play if for no other reason it takes your mind off our misery for a few hours, and so that's what it did. ♪ so will bounty select-a-size. it's the smaller powerful sheet. the only one with trap + lock technology. look! one select-a-size sheet of bounty is 50% more absorbent than a full size sheet of the leading ordinary brand. use less. with the small but powerful picker upper, bounty select-a-size. you won't just find us online, you'll also find us in person, with dedicated support teams at over 500 branches nationwide. so when you call or visit, you can ask for a name yo
this half hour, the latest on the jovan belcher tragedy. the people closest to the nfl linebacker and the girlfriend he killed are speaking out now about the shocking murder suicide. we are also going to talk about a report that came in, "the new york post"over night, that gave details to what he was doing hours before the murder. very, very interesting. >>> later this half hour, magic man, our polkameister, sitting down with penn jillette to talk about harry houdini, magic, and familia. >>> kate middleton spending a second day in the london hospital and prince william has been at his pregnant wife's side as she is treated for severe morning sickness. >> the palace ended speculation about the duchess yesterday, confirming she is expecting. abc's nick schifrin joining us live from london. good morning, nick. >> reporter: good morning, paula. good morning, rob. what an exciting morning it is here. kates had her belly stared at, her every action scrutinized since the wedding, and now all of those people who have been incorrectly guessing she was pregnant for months are finally right.
' linebacker jovan belcher. authorities say he shot his girlfriend saturday and then went to arrowhead stadium where he turned the gun on himself. the team's head coach wiped away tears on the sideline yesterday and spoke to reporters. >> i'm choosing not to answer any questions about what i saw yesterday, and i think that you will understand that and hopefully you will respect my wishes on that because it wasn't a pretty sight. our prayers go out to the family of kasandra perkins. they are grieving and we send our condolences. >> belcher's hometown, a vigil was held for the former high school stole. the couple reportedly had argued recently. they leave behind a 3-month-old baby. >>> residents in northern california may finally be getting a break from a series of powerful storms that have saturated the region over the past week. a third storm sunday dumped pounding rain and downed trees and power lines. nbc's jay gray has the latest from california. >> reporter: this morning the water and worries continue to rise across central and northern california. for almost a week now, high winds and hea
-suicide by jovan belcher. >> what i was talking about here, and i'm sorry if that wasn't clear to everybody, was a gun culture. i never mentioned the second amendment. i never used the words gun control. people inferred that. now, do i believe that we need more comprehensive and more sensible gun control legislation? yes, i do. that doesn't mean repeal of the second amendment. that doesn't mean a prohibition on somebody having a gun to protect their home and their family. it means sensible and more comprehensive gun control legislation. but even if you had that, you would still have the problem of what jason whitlock wrote about and what i agree with and that is a gun culture in this country. >> well, coming up, david beckham says good-bye as fleet wood mak comes roaring back. and the bridge is blasted. you're watching "first look" on msn msnbc. in 2001. since then, there's been one wedding, 2 kids, and 43 bottles of olay total effects. so in spite of 185 tantrums 378 pre-dawn starts and a lot of birthdays, caroline still looks amazing. you can challenge what's possible thanks to the truste
chiefs player jovan belcher. what the 911 tapes reveal about the final moments of this slain girlfriend. >> a lot to talk about this morning over our next two hours. we will be talking with stephanie cutter, the former companisy campaign manager of president obama's re-election campaign. howard kurtz the host of "cnn's reliable sources" lauren ashburn, republican from texas, congressman jeb hensarling with us, randy weingarten, president of the american federation of teachers. all guests this morning. wednesday, december 5th, and "starting point" begins right now. >>> our "starting point" this morning, president obama putting his foot down. he says no tax hikes for the wealthy, no deal. america hits that fiscal cliff in 27 days and that means tax hikes and deep spending cuts if the democrats and the republicans can't come together in some kind of a deal and with just ten days remaining until congress is scheduled to go home for the holidays, the clock ticking. here's what he told bloomberg news. listen. >> we're going to have to see the rates on the top 2% go up and we're not going to b
. it is it the bottom of the area and time for the top of the news. a tragedy in pro football. linebacker jovan belcher shot his gurl friend and went to the arrow head and committed suicide before the coach and general manager. belcher and his girlfriend had been arguing . the twov them leaving behind a three month old baby who can now with family. >> we could see huge tax increases and shrinking pay cuts. it is it a bad combination and triggering another recession. jan 1st is the deadline for lawmakers and the president to reach a deal on the budget. if they don't we'll go over the so-called fiscal cliff. mexico swearing in a new president and the reaction not good in the streets of mexico city. the inauguration is earlier today and marking the return of a party that was forced out a dozen years ago. after running the country 7 uninterrupted deck cades and playinged by crime. we are joined by lauren who is in mexico he promises that his party will be corruption-fro. that is important. you want stability south of our border considering they have a war going on. why should people believe it would be bet
in the murder-suicide case involving kansas city chief jovan belcher. the reports are that he spent an alcohol-fueled evening with another woman before he went home and got into that fatal argument with his girlfriend. a woman named whitney glass claims she had dinner with belcher and he spent the night in his car before headed home at approximately:00 in the morning. police say he got into a huge argument with his girlfriend and shot her 9 times. then he drove to arrowhead stadium, spoke to his coaches and took his own life. bill: belcher's family and teammates saying they are shocked and did not see such a brutal turn of event coming the way they did. >> maybe you can keep this separate and move on with maybe it guy you knew before saturday. i think there is maybe some comfort in that. but trying to figure it out and trying to connect those two to me is pretty confusing and just too difficult right now. >> you can't think back -- it what you so shocking i don't think anyone would have done anything different. bill: you wonder about the 3-month-old baby in the custody of perkins' mother who m
this morning, a nfl player shoots and kills his girlfriend before turning the gun on himself. jovan belcher shot and killed his 22-year-old girlfriend in their home and belcher's mother and three month old daughter in another room and he then drove to the chiefs practice facility and met up with the head coach and general manager there before turning away and taking his own life in front of them. >> if you can take your worst nightmare and then put somebody that you know and love into that situation a give them a gun and stand three feet away from them and watch them kill themselves, that's what it's like. it's unfathomable. >> police did not release a motive, but he and his girlfriend had been arguing frequently. he was just 25 years old. >> could a broken signal cause this train to derail. it stopped for a ligred light ad got the approved to go. and investigators are looking into the signal issues may have led to the crash. well, first they ran out of gas while trying to steal gas and two would-be thieves led key efforts. >> i think on the world's dumbest criminals, first you run out of f
for gun control after a murder-suicide involving kansas city chiefs linebacker jovan belcher. listen as he quotes extensively from foxsports.com writer jason whitlock. >> our current gun culture, whitlock wrote, ensures more and more domestic disputes will end in the ultimate tragedy and more convenient store confrontations over loud music coming from a car will leave more teenager boys bloodied and dead. handguns do not enhance our safety. they exacerbate our flaws, bait us in to embracing confrontation rather than avoiding it. in the coming days, belcher's action and the connection to football will be analyzed. who knows, but here wrote jason whitlock is what i believe. if belcher didn't process a gun, he and perkins would be alive today. >> bret: news busters said costas entitled to his opinion but does he have to give it during halftime of a nationally televised game? critics who say political bias turns up in college classrooms have a big number to back up the case. the web site campus reform looked to federal election records from open secrets.org and found 96% of donations from ivy
by the murder-suicide involving kansas city chiefs player jovan belcher. >> our current gun which you will yoculture,whitlock wrote, e convenience store cob frontations over music coming from car will leave teenage boys bloody and dead. they bait ugg us into embracing confrontation rather than avoiding it. >> ink jo us, ou jointly us is l panel. what do you think. appropriate, inappropriate, something in between. >> leading the subject matter aside, it's a real hot potato. you make comments about that using space on the air waves, you're going to get a huge reaction. but whether or not he used that platform was appropriate is a different question. i think if he had said what he said there on twitter or on facebook or in another place, he would have gotten a reaction but not the enormous reaction that this prompted because he used what is traditionally a perch in journalism where you don't hole forth like a political talk show host and give commentary on something except for football. it was a football game, and that will be the question. people are saying that nbc should fire him. tha
. while discussing the weekend murder-suicide involving jovan belcher and his girl , costas said if belcher didn't possess a gun and he perkins would be alive today that triggered a backlash from gun rights advocates some calling for nbc's ouster. no comment from the network. >>> manning brings the broncos to the coliseum this week. we will carry the game live here, we will make it raiders day. [ unintelligible ]o q! >>> relief for muni riders that is our big story. >>> all night effort to fix a power problems seems to be paying off. what muni is saying now about the morning service. >>> big mess in marin. what is happening after a school shutdown after water >>> good tuesday morning. 5:29. thanks for starting your day , i'm kristen sze. >>> i'm eric thomas. muni riders getting from point a to b again this morning after power outage put the brakes on service last night. amy hollyfield has the good news live at church and dubose. >> reporter: i can show it to you, here comes an n judah now one of the lines that was only going to have partial service this morning but they were abl
kansas city cheer player jovan belcher and his girlfriend. he said -- >> bret: others see hypocrisy in the gun control monologue. the site notes that costas lives much of his life with the benefit of armed security. men with guns. the author writes when they went on the rant against guns he showed himself to be a hypocrite of the highest orde order. he joined other numerous elitists who live by the standard of do as i say, not as i do. belcher's grieving teammates refuse to blame guns for tragic event. the new york daily news say a pair of players one schaefering thanksgiving dinner with belcher who insists the protection of guns is necessary and most people own them. they called it a mistake saying that my mistake is i left it for too much communication in the short segment. rather than properly discussing the football culture the gun culture and domestic violence. costas says he does not favor appeal of the second amendment. >> bret: it's been a month since the campaign ended but vice president asheel ghafoor js gaffes are continuing. he sent congratulatory letter to eric boudenwe
girlfriend. how much responsibilities as the nfl have? his take. gerri: the tragic murder-suicide by jovan belcher sending shockwaves through the national football league. the kansas city chiefs linebacker spot and killed his girlfriend saturday before driving to his team's practice facility killing himself leaving behind his three month old doctor. shocked at the news his university of maine football coach said i am pressed to find a man who had more impact on his teammates and football family. he is truly one. great stories in the program's history. so what happened? here to shed light on nfl, former running back, super bowl champion, ricky waters. he is one of hundreds of players suing the league over head injuries and fox sports.com writer peter shrage. ricky, i will start with you. >> thanks, gerry. gerri: talk to us, ricky about the stresses on players and what it makes you do. it is just hard to imagine something like this happening. >> yeah. terrible, a terrible tragedy but yes there's a lot of pressure on players and there's a lot of stress. there is the pressure to perform at you
't have clothes on. now headlines. the "new york post" says chief linebacker jovan belcher was playing the field, so to speak. and spent the night at another woman's apartment friday night. in the morning, he returned home where he murdered his girlfriend and then turned the gun on himself in front of his coaches. >>> there is a new report that belcher was violent in the past. in 2006, he punched his fist through a window because he was upset with a girl. maybe this whole thing has nothing to do with guns. maybe it was domestic violence. they were portrayed in the book and movie "in cold blood". investigators in florida are trying to figure out if the two men convicted of murdering the clutter family in kansas in 1959 killed another family. dick hickcock and perry smith are suspected of killing the walker family. authorities are hoping to exhume their bodies to test the dna evidence. >>> lawyers for george zimmerman releasing this new photo that they say was taken the night that trayvon martin was shot and killed. you remember this story. the picture now shows zimmerman with a bloody n
stadium when linebacker jovan belcher killed himself in the parking lot after killing his girlfriend. >>> as the country edges closer to the fiscal cliff, both sides are digging in their heels on a major sticking point. tax rates for the wealthy. treasury secretary timothy geithner making the rounds on the sunday morning talk shows today, and once again, made it clear that white house will reject any deal that does not let the bush tax cuts expire for high earners. >> if republicans are not willing to let rates go back up, and we think they should go back to the clinton levels, at a time when the american economy was to be exceptionally well, then there will not be an agreement. >> joining me, former pennsylvania governor and nbc news political analyst, ed rendell and the co-chair of the campaign to fix the debt here in new york, republican strategist, susan purcell. good afternoon to both of you. governor we'll start with you, both sides seem to be standing firm over what they want out of the fiscal cliff deal this morning. this is what house speaker john boehner said about the stat
jovan belcher killed himself at the stadium after killing his girlfriend. >>> left at least five afghan nationals dead, nine suicide bombers struck the base, one blew himself up outside the main gate. the remaining bombers were killed. officials tell nbc news at least 18 people were wounded. nbc has the latest from kabul. >> reporter: craig, it seemed to have been a well-coordinated and complex attack. taliban insurgents tried to target jalalabad airfield when a car ladened with explosives targeted a gate there, allowing insurgents to try to trickle in. that's where they were met with afghan security forces who are engaged the taliban, in the end killing nine insurgents. five afghans were also killed, including two civilians and three members of the afghan special forces. according to nato here in afghanistan, they say the taliban were not able to breach the perimeter of the base and no u.s. service members were killed in today's attack. in fact, they see the attack as a success for the afghan security forces, because they were in the lead and helped defeat the taliban. as a success for
jovan belcher. apparently just hours before he shot and killed his girlfriend, tops our look at the stories around the news nation today. officers reposponded to a 911 cl five hours before the murder-suicide. police say they let belcher go. he did not appear to be intoxicated. nbc sports commentator bob costas responding after a firestorm of criticism in the sunday night commentary. he talked about guns saying he wished he had more time to talk about the issues surrounding belcher and perkins' death. >> what i was talking about here, and i'm sorry if that wasn't clear to everybody, was a gun culture. i never mentioned the 2nd amendment or used the words gun control. people inferred that. do i believe we need more comprehensive and sensible gun control legislation? yes, do. that doesn't mean repeal the 2nd amendment. >>> and bank giant citigroup is cutting 11,000 jobs worldwide. this decision is part of a company's restructuring. and will save they say $1.1 million a year in expenses. it's the first actions by the it'sight back. actions by the again? it's embarrassing it's emb
now to the murder suicide involving kansas city chief jovan belcher. one reporter now is asking if sports pundits are blaming everything but belcher after he's one who killed his girl friend and later turned the gun on himself. for example, bob costas blamed gun control. other sports writers suggested maybe football injuries or concussions had something to do with it. do we try to clean up or explain away the wrongdoings of people just because they're sports stars? >> i think there's two things at play here. sometimes yes, we do. there is research going on about repeated concussions, traumatic brain injury, not just in our football players, but in our soldiers who come back and have explosive episodes. so that's one thing, but you also have a pattern again and again in this country of men taking out their violence and anger against women who are their loved ones, taking their lives and no matter what's going on you cannot executes individual who took that life and left a baby -- excuse the individual who took that life and left a baby without parents. >> the team knew about this
to be broiling a little bit, john, and this is what prompted bob costas' comments, jovan belcher committed a murder/suicide and also reportedly suffered from traumatic brain injury potentially from being obviously hit in the head, concussions are another problem in the nfl all together but how do we keep the guns out of the hands of people who might have these kinds of issues? >> this is always going to be difficult because in this country we believe in your right to own a gun and what we don't want to do is compromise the rights of law-abiding citizens. i think what we have to be very careful and where bob costas was wrong he tried to leverage a very emotional event to promote a certain philosophical point that he has at a time when that wasn't the right discussion. i think these are important issues. they're difficult issues and they should be discussed in washington but not at the time of a tragedy where somebody is trying to leverage the emotions out there. >> tea partiers are using the gun issue to rally the base. rand paul said "only hours after re-election barack obama immediately m
jovan belcher. the first call made by belcher's frantic mother after finding her son's girlfriend kasandra perkins shot. listen. >> is she bleeding is this. >> yes, she is. >> where is she bleeding from? >> i can't tell. in the back it looks like. >> okay. we don't want -- go ahead. where is your son at? >> he left. >> huh? >> get the ambulance up here, please. >> we're on the way. where is your son at? >> he left. >> he left? >> yes. >> they were arguing and he shot her. >> yes, they was arguing. >> weight your son's name? >> [ bleep ]. get the ambulance here. i have a baby. >> after shooting his girlfriend, police say belcher drove to arrowhead stadium where he killed himself in the parking lot of the chiefs' practice facility. here's the call from the stadium. >> hello? we need a code one ambulance although they think he's probably dead. number 1 arrowhead drive, the practice field at [ inaudible ] stadium. it's a self-inflicted shooting. it's a done deal. they've got a player that shot himself. >> police say the chiefs have provided counseling for the couple to help work throu
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